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« Reply #195 on: July 31, 2010, 12:43:14 PM »

I feel good right now! Hope I am not permanently damaged!
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« Reply #196 on: July 31, 2010, 12:44:58 PM »

I feel good right now! Hope I am not permanently damaged!
Great, Sammy.   Now, get that silly permanent damage stuff out of your head.  Onward and upward.   JIM      Smiley Afro
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« Reply #197 on: July 31, 2010, 12:48:25 PM »

Ok thanks! Even if this only lasts a few minutes?
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« Reply #198 on: July 31, 2010, 12:53:55 PM »

Ok thanks! Even if this only lasts a few minutes?
Sammy,  just enjoy every minute of feeling better.  Don't worry about the future.  If and when the next symptoms arrive, you have learned new skills and patience to get you through those as well.      JIM         Smiley Afro
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Not a doctor or health care person. Just offering friendly advice based on personal experiences.  Good luck, all my forum friends.  JIM
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« Reply #199 on: July 31, 2010, 01:02:44 PM »

Okay Vine, then please, who are these people, how many, where are they. Are they posting here??? What are their stories, I would like to talk to these poeple.  And by permanent, what are we talking about, debilitating, emotional, physical, please enlighten us.  

If you want to believe in permanent damage, I will certainly let you entertain yourself.  The bottom line is , we are on benzos, we have to get off, are we less damaged on the pills.  Look, none of this is easy, what is the point of discussing the worst case scenario, really.  I'm curious,how does this help sammy.  For every person you bring to me who is premanently damaged I can find you a thousand that aren't.  


and then there is this study  

http://benzowithdrawal.com/forum/index.php?topic=8720.0

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I agree with Zoe here....

This is a very negative post vine, it is not helpful....
we all have been through enough.

How is this negative info helping anyone??

I do not know one person who has permanent damage from Benzos, there is another forum before I joined this one.
A lady was on Klonopin, a very high dose for 20 years, she got off and healed, look at all the success stories...

I have never met anyone who had permanent Brain Damage from Benzos, stay positive vine, when you post this, not only is it discouraging to other members' but to yourself as well...

Look at Kenny who was here- healed
Saint Sophia- Healed
and others....

So I say the proof is in the pudding that we don't have perm. brain damage...

There's always an "if" but we could "what if" anything...

Nay xo
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« Reply #200 on: July 31, 2010, 01:03:20 PM »

Okay Vine, then please, who are these people, how many, where are they. Are they posting here??? What are their stories, I would like to talk to these poeple.  And by permanent, what are we talking about, debilitating, emotional, physical, please enlighten us.  

If you want to believe in permanent damage, I will certainly let you entertain yourself.  The bottom line is , we are on benzos, we have to get off, are we less damaged on the pills.  Look, none of this is easy, what is the point of discussing the worst case scenario, really.  I'm curious,how does this help sammy.  For every person you bring to me who is premanently damaged I can find you a thousand that aren't.  


and then there is this study  

http://benzowithdrawal.com/forum/index.php?topic=8720.0

Let's keep hope alive  Smiley



i think i answered julie on those same questions earlier in this thread. i told her to read will day's "thoughts on the post benzo illness". i do believe he is a lot better than he was.

as for other people, to be honest i have tried to avoid seeking those people out because they scare me. i think there is some "benzo protracted" group, you could find them there.
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« Reply #201 on: July 31, 2010, 01:08:29 PM »

i am sorry for the negative post nadene, but if you go back in the thread and see how the discussion started, it started innocently enough. look at the title of this threadm it is asking a question about permanent brain damage. what would be the point of asking such questions if the only answers you got consisted of wishful thinking?

i dont think sammy is permanently damaged, she wasn't opn benzos that long. but i do think that some people have permanent damage.

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A lady was on Klonopin, a very high dose for 20 years, she got off and healed, look at all the success stories...

do you have a link to her story? i woud love to read that.

and kenny who? the last i remember speaking to him (unless you mean someone else) he had awful cog fog and depression.
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« Reply #202 on: July 31, 2010, 01:32:40 PM »

Okay Vine, then please, who are these people, how many, where are they. Are they posting here??? What are their stories, I would like to talk to these poeple.  And by permanent, what are we talking about, debilitating, emotional, physical, please enlighten us.  

If you want to believe in permanent damage, I will certainly let you entertain yourself.  The bottom line is , we are on benzos, we have to get off, are we less damaged on the pills.  Look, none of this is easy, what is the point of discussing the worst case scenario, really.  I'm curious,how does this help sammy.  For every person you bring to me who is premanently damaged I can find you a thousand that aren't.  


and then there is this study  

http://benzowithdrawal.com/forum/index.php?topic=8720.0

Let's keep hope alive  Smiley



I agree with Zoe here....

This is a very negative post vine, it is not helpful....
we all have been through enough.

How is this negative info helping anyone??

I do not know one person who has permanent damage from Benzos, there is another forum before I joined this one.
A lady was on Klonopin, a very high dose for 20 years, she got off and healed, look at all the success stories...

I have never met anyone who had permanent Brain Damage from Benzos, stay positive vine, when you post this, not only is it discouraging to other members' but to yourself as well...

Look at Kenny who was here- healed
Saint Sophia- Healed
and others....

So I say the proof is in the pudding that we don't have perm. brain damage...

There's always an "if" but we could "what if" anything...

Nay xo
I agree Nay.  I choose to believe there is no damage.  Wishful thinking?   Perhaps, but I much prefer that over the negative kind. Positive energy heals. Negative thoughts and energy lead to more suffering.   JIM   Smiley Afro
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Not a doctor or health care person. Just offering friendly advice based on personal experiences.  Good luck, all my forum friends.  JIM
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« Reply #203 on: July 31, 2010, 01:49:02 PM »

Okay Vine, then please, who are these people, how many, where are they. Are they posting here??? What are their stories, I would like to talk to these poeple.  And by permanent, what are we talking about, debilitating, emotional, physical, please enlighten us.  

If you want to believe in permanent damage, I will certainly let you entertain yourself.  The bottom line is , we are on benzos, we have to get off, are we less damaged on the pills.  Look, none of this is easy, what is the point of discussing the worst case scenario, really.  I'm curious,how does this help sammy.  For every person you bring to me who is premanently damaged I can find you a thousand that aren't.  


and then there is this study  

http://benzowithdrawal.com/forum/index.php?topic=8720.0

Let's keep hope alive  Smiley



I agree with Zoe here....

This is a very negative post vine, it is not helpful....
we all have been through enough.

How is this negative info helping anyone??

I do not know one person who has permanent damage from Benzos, there is another forum before I joined this one.
A lady was on Klonopin, a very high dose for 20 years, she got off and healed, look at all the success stories...

I have never met anyone who had permanent Brain Damage from Benzos, stay positive vine, when you post this, not only is it discouraging to other members' but to yourself as well...

Look at Kenny who was here- healed
Saint Sophia- Healed
and others....

So I say the proof is in the pudding that we don't have perm. brain damage...

There's always an "if" but we could "what if" anything...

Nay xo
I agree Nay.  I choose to believe there is no damage.  Wishful thinking?   Perhaps, but I much prefer that over the negative kind. Positive energy heals. Negative thoughts and energy lead to more suffering.   JIM   Smiley Afro

I agree, I say stay positive, no one can live their life in fear.... nor pondering on the negativity, sure we can speculate, but where does it get us?
I say living a life in fear of never healing is not living at all, yes w/d is painful, I have good days & bad days just like everyone else here... but I'll take the good, that's an indication to me I'm healing... Wink

We all heal....

Nay xo
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« Reply #204 on: July 31, 2010, 02:51:04 PM »

i am sorry for the negative post nadene, but if you go back in the thread and see how the discussion started, it started innocently enough. look at the title of this threadm it is asking a question about permanent brain damage. what would be the point of asking such questions if the only answers you got consisted of wishful thinking?

i dont think sammy is permanently damaged, she wasn't opn benzos that long. but i do think that some people have permanent damage.

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A lady was on Klonopin, a very high dose for 20 years, she got off and healed, look at all the success stories...

do you have a link to her story? i woud love to read that.

and kenny who? the last i remember speaking to him (unless you mean someone else) he had awful cog fog and depression.

The forum I was at before here was Yahoo Benzo w/d group, it closed down...

I looked and it seems that the success stories were taken with it, you can search for it on google...
I'm sure she wouldn't mind you reading her story, her name is Barbara, if you can find it...

Kenneth Price, he was a member here, his story is in the success stories...

Nay xo
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« Reply #205 on: July 31, 2010, 03:16:38 PM »

sorry all, I respect your opinions but putting your head in the sand does not work for me

I know this approach is best for some and that is fine we are all different but we all need to respect each others differences and opinions

at least that is my opinion!  Grin

there is nothing negative about a honest post, at least to me

dwelling on negative can be damaging, that never happened here
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« Reply #206 on: July 31, 2010, 03:49:57 PM »

sorry all, I respect your opinions but putting your head in the sand does not work for me

I know this approach is best for some and that is fine we are all different but we all need to respect each others differences and opinions

at least that is my opinion!  Grin

there is nothing negative about a honest post, at least to me

dwelling on negative can be damaging, that never happened here

I agree
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« Reply #207 on: July 31, 2010, 04:52:45 PM »

Quit the negative Smiley
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« Reply #208 on: July 31, 2010, 04:57:43 PM »

Quit the negative Smiley
Don't listen to them , Sammy.  You know the power and healing that comes from positive thinking.              JIM                       Smiley Afro
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« Reply #209 on: July 31, 2010, 04:59:40 PM »

Sammy what does your shirt say?
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